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Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated?


From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:07:49 -0400

On Oct 26, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:

I think ARIN is now doing sparse allocations on /28 boundaries.

Yes (two NANOG messages attached from earlier this month)
/John

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From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: October 18, 2010 2:55:49 PM EDT
To: David Conrad <drc () virtualized org>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption - Sparse IPv6 allocation

On Oct 18, 2010, at 2:18 PM, David Conrad wrote:
On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Jack Bates wrote:
ARIN does reservations (unsure at what length, but at least down to /31).

Do they still do that?  Back when I was at IANA, one of the justifications the RIRs gave for the /12s they received 
was that they were going to be using the 'bisection' method of allocation which removes the need for reservation.  
Last I heard, APNIC was using the bisection method...

ARIN is doing the same (the 'bisection' method) with our IPv6 management 
since January 2010: we refer to the "sparse allocation" approach and it 
was requested by the community during the ARIN/NANOG Dearborn meeting.

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN



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From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: October 18, 2010 8:14:18 PM EDT
To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption - Sparse IPv6 allocation

On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:

I have a few customers whose allocations are /29 away from their nearest neighbor (half a nibble). That seems a 
little close considering there is a lot of talk about doing nibble boundaries, and there doesn't seem to be 
consensus yet.

For these customers, I don't think they will need more than a /29, but if we collectively decide that a /28 is the 
next step from a /32, how will the older allocations be dealt with?  This is pretty much a rhetorical question at 
this point, and I suppose the proper thing to do is to channel these questions toward the PPML for discussion as 
potential policy.

Just for reference regarding existing IPv6 sparse practice:

Our current plan is to use the sparse allocation block (currently a /14)
until we fill it up.  Bisection done at the /28 boundary which leaves a
fairly large reserve.

If an organization needs an allocation larger than a /28, we have set 
aside a /15 block for those larger ISPs.

The orgs that already have allocations (/32s from /29s) also have a 
reserve.  If they need additional space, they can either request from 
their /29 reserve, or if they need more than a /29, can request a new 
block.

Obviously, this can be changed if the community wishes it so. Bring
any obvious suggestions to the ARIN suggestion process, and anything
which might be contentious or affect allocations to the policy process.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN




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