Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

[Rodney Joffe <rjoffe () centergate com>]

> On Jun 13, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
>
> Rodney,
>
> What do you suggest? Shoot them at Dawn? :-) 
>
> The standard warning and education has always been adequate in the past. We don't have a runaway spamming problem on 
> the list.

What standard warning and education?

We have filters to stop spam making it to the list.

But there is definitely a spamming problem of sorts amongst vendors, to subscriber addresses. 

I see something every couple of months that I can track back to NANOG, or ARIN.

What I *know* is that if you open the door, and ignore it with vendors on NANOG, the list members will end up having a 
problem. If you want to know why I consider myself an expert, feel free to ask me offline about what the attitude that 
those of us who ran "the backbone" in 1994 had - and how that worked out.

On the other hand, as a senior citizen, at the end of my tech days, with enable grudgingly given up, I guess I could 
turn away and say "not my problem, really".

YMMV.
> -mel beckman
>
> > On Jun 13, 2017, at 6:00 AM, Rodney Joffe <rjoffe () centergate com> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that more than just a few of us were spammed by Glenn Stern (gstern () calient net), an employee of Calient 
> > following NANOG 70.
> >
> > The spammer had the balls to say, in his email:
> >
> > > We do not know each other. I'm leveraging the attendee list for NANOG to reach out and raise awareness of the value 
> > > of OCS (Optical Circuit Switching) in the data center and in particular, the Carrier Neutral Hotel where we've been 
> > > active with next generation MeetMeRoom discussions.
> >
> > He does not show as an attendee at NANOG, but another executive, David Altstaetter, daltstaetter () calient net did 
> > register, and may have even shown up. Hopefully those of you who have traditional community attitudes will show your 
> > reaction via your pocketbooks.
> >
> > Maybe its time for the NANOG board and staff to step in, and develop some teeth to use in cases like these? Unless 
> > the majority of you members are cool with unfettered spamming of member and attendee lists. In which case, have at 
> > it!
> >
> > Rodney